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fallacious thinking about god eleven common fallacies by geoffrey berg acknowledgement the author acknowledges assistance and helpful advice from russell berg, janis entwisle, arthur haigh, jane hughes and guy otten. geoffrey h.l. berg march 2011. rights reserved. introduction this short work is devoted to outlining and examining various common logical fallacies in the philosophy of religion which ought to be rooted out. at the end (in the eleventh fallacy) i also reveal a hidden corollary is necessary to any supposed religious belief in the existence of god (i.e. that god can legitimately self identify itself as god). back to the top of the page fallacy 1: the world needs god as creator fallacy a traditional and still popular notion is that the world is so complex that it needed god to create it. our origins fascinated even ancient societies and various myths described creation. monotheists started from ancient times to claim god was necessary as the creator. this has continued through thomas aquinas and william paley even to antony flew who eventually converted to theism because he came to see a need for a creator god as designer of our world. however the notion that a sophisticated world needs god as its creator and designer is logically fallacious in two major ways. even the most famous design argument and analogy, that of william paley (1743-1805) who wrote just as a sophisticated watch (unlike a rock) implies a watchmaker, a complex world implies a creator who is god, has this fallacy. suppose, as paley did, that a watch implies a watchmaker, that watchmaker is not god and is not immortal. likewise even supposing the world has a creator, that creator need be neither god nor even immortal. furthermore, unlike in paleys day we are aware not just of evolutionary processes but also of robotic manufacture and artificial computer-like intelligences. yes, there is a mystery concerning our ultimate genesis, but god is not needed as the solution. the other fallacy is if one claims the world required a more sophisticated being, god, to create it, one is attempting to solve a problem by creating a yet greater problem. if we are in need of a creator god who is more powerful and greater than us to bring us into existence, that greater god being more wondrous than us would be even more in need than us of some creator to create and explain it! indeed as, unlike us, god would be immortally god, it could not develop nor evolve to its present glory over time but must be from the very beginning omnipotent and omniscient an extraordinary phenomenon, far more inexplicable than even us. far from solving or explaining the problem of our ultimate origin, the concept of god is actually massively enhancing the problem. so the notion that god is needed to or even can satisfactorily explain existence as we see it is logically fallacious. back to the top of the page fallacy 2: the science fallacy many atheists nowadays claim that science demonstrates the non-existence of god. some cite scriptures that are contradicted by current scientific knowledge. some (like victor stenger) claim science provides no support for a god hypothesis while some (like stephen hawking) claim current scientific theories render the notion of god unnecessary. the essential fallacy in the notion that science disproves (or even can prove or disprove) gods existence is that people may always claim that something (be it god or some other force) set in place the scientific laws or the universe in the first place. however some theists, including some scientists, claim science shows god exists by supposedly confirming some scriptural or religious claim yet even if that is (sometimes) true that cannot prove god exists and lies behind it all (see the extraordinary happenings fallacy). certainly modern science shows many notions of god are wrong or absurd for instance the notions that god created the world around six thousand years ago and god killed all humanity except one family several thousand years ago in a flood. however it is a logical fallacy to suppose science can now or ever disprove the existence of a more remote, deistic conception of god as a force that originally set the whole cosmos in operation. for instance theists may claim that god was somehow the cause of the big bang, or at any rate an ultimate cause that is beyond the scope of our science or our knowledge. scientists can never in logic be certain they have reached the ultimate cause of everything which is thought, at least speculatively, by deists to be god. back to the top of the page fallacy 3: the human psychology fallacy many prominent atheists have argued that god is believed in by people for psychological reasons and that shows god does not really exist. karl marx, sigmund freud and ludwig feuerbach all argued this. today daniel dennett has argued something similar (i.e. belief in god is caused by a mental virus that human brains are particularly susceptible to). it is true many people do believe in god for what ultimately are human psychological reasons. clearly if god does not exist beyond human minds, belief in god must be based on human fallacy and have arisen within human brains the most likely explanation is surely a human psychological disposition to believe in some god. yet even if people who believe in god do so as a result of human psychology, it is a logical fallacy to suppose god then cannot also exist independently outside or beyond human minds. human belief cannot dictate things like the actual shape of the earth. it is independent of us. whether we believe the earth is round or flat is quite irrelevant to the fact of the earth being round or flat (or indeed pear shaped!). likewise whatever human minds may believe, that cannot affect the actual existence or non-existence of god beyond us. therefore whatever is human psychological belief or non-belief in gods existence would not help god to exist nor prevent god from existing beyond us. there is also a fallacious psychologically based theistic argument that neither the world nor humans would have meaning or significance if god did not exist and humans could then behave badly without divine restraint! god cannot somehow exist just because his existence might help humanity potential usefulness does not make natural objects occur. oases are useful in deserts but that alone does not create them! back to the top of the page fallacy 4: the argument from authority fallacy both many theists and many atheists like to argue that as some great person such as einstein, gandhi, darwin or newton did or did not believe in gods existence, therefore we ought to follow his views into belief or unbelief in god as the case may be. the logical fallacy is to suppose that because the person concerned was brilliantly pioneering in some sphere of human activity or in setting a moral example, he is either necessarily correct or has some special access to the truth concerning the existence of god. the fact is these human paragons all had human limitations (e.g. mortality) just like the rest of us. they had no special means of knowing whether god exists that is not available to other people. they had no special guarantee of being correct. the converse argument many atheists and theists use that because some great scoundrel (like hitler or stalin) did or did not believe in god is a good reason for us to take the opposite view is also logically wrong. even great scoundrels are not necessarily wrong about everything. incidentally it used to be a theistic argument (used by lord herbert of cherbury, 1583-1648, before the days of widespread religious pluralism it is less common now!) that god must exist because there was universal belief in gods existence. likewise that was fallacious. just as it does not affect the actual existence or non-existence of god that one person believes in his existence, likewise it does not affect the actual existence or non-existence of god if virtually all humans beli

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